| Author | Message | ||
| Asoka |
Do you believe in Luck? Do you believe that many, if not all, of the people who have become outstandingly successful rich, or famous were just lucky? Indeed, IS there such a thing as luck at all? As I read through self-help material, I am constantly being told that "there is no such thing as luck". In fact, Brian Tracy has a program out called "The Luck Factor", and the whole premise is that you basically make your own luck. I have heard other popular speakers go even further and say that there is no such thing. For a while, I believed this to be true, but these days I do wonder. You see, many of these speakers point to extraordinarily successful individuals, and then go on to show how these people MADE their own success, and that luck had little to do with it. Now this may be true in part; maybe even for the most part. However, the strange thing is that when you ask many of these self-same examples of success about it, they DO believe in luck, or else they make it very clear that they personally never expected to achieve the level of success that they have achieved. In other words, it really wasn't such a big picture intention-filled plan, as many people would have you believe. Donald Trump admitted to believing in Luck in a recent interview. Along with another factors that most self-help gurus would nod their heads sagely about, Bill Gates also once admitted that a large part of his initial success was down to Luck. Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones once said that when they started out, their big ambition was to be the biggest band in.... London! And Oprah Winfrey, America's first black woman billionaire, said that she once figured that if she could make a MILLION dollars in her entire life, she would have considered herself a big success. All these examples, and many more, make it clear that sometimes extraordinary success overtakes the people experiencing it. It's almost as if their own vision was too small for what eventually happened to them. There is a lot to be said for finding and surfing a tidal wave! Now, all of this is not to say that personal growth principles do not play a very LARGE part in a person's success, and in differentiating that person from the crowd. However, it may not be EVERYTHING, which is the way the personal growth gurus might have you think. Of course, on a bigger picture view, they are right. If we look at our lives from a metaphysical karmic perspective, pretty well all that happens to us happens for a reason. It is only from the human personality consciousness perspective that we fail to see the consequences of our previous actions - maybe in previous lives - and hence attribute what happens to us as good or bad luck. However, from the ground level perspective of human daily living, it IS hard to attribute everything that happens to a person as a result of their failure or success in applying success principles. So what do you think? What does Luck have to do with it?... Asoka | ||
| Martin Lipka
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Luck! I'd like to view luck as the coming together of forces, people, places and timing. Both good and bad luck take this combination. A negative event can and does produce individuals who, depending upon their skill sets, their level of involvement, time in their lives, which can turn the event into a good or worse outcome. | ||
| Anonymous |
Luck as an aphorism for a divined position of good fortune in hind-sight is pre-sumptuous, and of bad fortune somewhat escapist, yet as a concept of setting one's sights upon attainable goals from pre-sought and achieved positions of the deployment of will into extancy, it would be lucky to feel one is at all as opposed to not. | ||
| Sandra Lee Aldis
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Hello Asoka, I would like to give you a website to access that I found very interesting and it changed my idea about 'luck'. It also changed my ideas about our ability to change our purpose or destiny. I am not talking here about the choices we make and the emotional traumas we experience and do or don't deal with in life that often prevent us from realizing our purpose. Rather I suggest that with an ideal prenatal experience where there is total awareness and conguency that the parents are transmitting to the foetus-re chanting, meditations, talking telling the feotus about his/her ancestral past and about other cultures in the world, nature and stories about the life he/she is coming into, calm environment-so that the brain synchronicity of the new born baby is such that he/she is able to be emotionally, mentally, spiritually and physically connected from the time of birth to the parents and the whole universe he/she has committed to a conscousness raising life experience even before birth and when people say "they're just lucky" or "anything they touch turns to gold" it's really this synchronicity that is being experienced. This is what the rest of us need to struggle to attain. That is why prenatal care is probably the most important time of a child's life yet it is often given the least attention. So I do believe that we make our own luck by facing our emotional issues and raising our spiritual consciousness thereby changing our attitude. And I believe that the children who are born to whole/holy parents are extremely fortunate and lucky whether they live in a materially affluent place like North America or a Village in India it's the internal make-up of the individuals that matter, not the external. The website is really interesting, especially the part where he talks about the egg, rather than being passive as was once believed, is actually active and chooses the sperm. Let me know your thoughts on it. Sandra Lee. | ||
| VEDAVATHAM |
LUCK IS SOMETHING GOOD/FAVOURABLE THAT HAPPENS TO AN INDIVIDUAL IF HE /SHE HAS BEEN PREPARING FOR IT SPIRITUALLY/METAPHYSICALLY BY PRAYER/AFFIRMATION/VISUALIZATION ETC. THE INDIVIDUAL ALSO REAPS THE REWARDS IF SOMEONE ELSE FOR EXAMPLE HIS PARENTS OR OTHER WELL WISHERS HAVE DONE THE METAPHYSICAL WORK FOR HIM/HER. SOME INDIVIDUAL'S LUCK IS INTERCEPTED BY OTHERS WHO MIGHT BE MANIPULATIVE AND MALPRACTICE. SOME GET LUCK OUT OF THE BLUE...PERHAPS THAT IS THEIR GOOD KARMA.THIS ARE SOME OF MY OBSERVATIONS OF HOW LUCK SEMMS TO OPERATE. I HAD TO PUT MY OWN CAUSE AND EFFECT INTO MOTION TO GET WHAT I NEEDED...NOTHING CAME FREE AND EASY...I CERTAINLY WISH I HAD/HAVE LUCK...AND MONEY ROLLING IN. IN RELATIONSHIPS BY BEING A CARING PERSON I AM BLESSED WITH SOME STERLING FRIENDS...I CALL THAT LUCK...IN SOME AREAS LUCK WORKS SMOOTHLY | ||
| Deirhna |
Luck is a reflection on our connection with the "Universal Mind" (or whatever you choose to call it.) Good or bad, the connection is still a good one. What energy we feed is the end determiner of the results. If we are aware of the flow, we can learn to affect it. JMO Light, KuJo | ||
| Martin |
I have know people who are "lucky": I dont mean accumulating great wealth or winning the Lottery, but who seem to be in the right place at the right time, a job offer or training opportunity comes up, a second-hand car purchased turns out to be a really reliable and solid thing. This sort of thing happens more than one would expect to "lucky" individuals. Almost every culture on the planet has a deity or some process whereby "Luck" can be influenced. What is the concept of blessing if it isnt an attempt to influence the blessed persons circumstances or chances in life to the better: to improve their luck? Whether any of this works objectively or not is another question, but I would say yes, luck exists. | ||
| Harmony |
Luck, good or bad, is a very human way to look at life. In my experience, when I've turned to mere human sources for my answers I've found both good and bad. But I now choose a more spiritual approach to looking at life. I pray to gain a better understanding of God and my relationship to Him/Her as my source and cause of what happens to me. And I truly believe that God, my loving Father-Mother, has only good in store for me. And when I turn to Him/Her for the answers I always find good. That has happened with jobs, companionship, health, and abundance. | ||
| wes |
When "Luck" is viewed from eyes of aquisition of worldly things, based on material gains Ie; cars, wealth, easytimes. It may not be seen in it's fullness. Some self described "lucky person" 's, will tell you they are lucky to be alive as they connect to you verbally, while walking away in tattered clothes or seemingly miserable circumstance. Luck might be just the ability to wake each day happy to be alive, engaging in what fulfills you so that you go to bed satisfied and ready for another happy day to appear before your eyes, so you can give and receive that life force-energy-blessing-abundance-spirit that keeps one alive. | ||
| Marion Thomas |
My opinion about luck is having the right ideas, thoughts or projects put into operation at the right time. So it is an individual effort and right timing which is in itself is syncronicity. The there is also big luck and little luck whichever it is bring it on. | ||
| David Mason Brown
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Is there luck? It was Earl Nightingale who said: 'We become what we think about.' I believe that it is what we believe that is important. As you believe so shall you be. Also as one lives shall one be. To have peace it helps to teach peace. To have luck it helps to have a positive mental outlook and the burning desire to manifest what is right for one and those we love and interact with. There is a whole area of psychology that deals with this. It is called Expectation Psychology and leads to what is called the Self-fulfilling Prophecy. Try and only think and day dream about what you want to happen and have big dreams turning them into Mystic Visions! Good Luck! David MB | ||
| Anonymous |
Sandra, what's the name of the site you would like to recommend? | ||
| Anonymous |
Hi, im new to this forum but found it interesting. My thoughts on this topic would to a major extent match with those of David's as even i strongly believe that luck (whether good or bad) is just one's mindset. if a person is focussed on +ve living and has clear desires and has no doubts abt manifesting them, then the only luck that approaches him is good luck else it has to be vice versa. | ||
| Olaide Olajide
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Having read all the postings here, I feel I should just add that looking from the African point of view, I would say once we have a strong push and belief towards destiny, we should accept the existence of luck, either good or bad. Nevertheless, I shall agree with Martin Lupka in his submission that luck is a product of forces, people, places and timing. Happy to be part of this discussion. | ||
| Anonymous |
...."Luck" is the junction of preparation and opportunity.... | ||
| Red |
Luck? Bet your butts it exists. It can have other names, sure, but why is it some people are born with great family resources while others are born in poverty? If both are terribly ambitious, who's going to go to the best colleges and make more income? Many call that Karma, but how can you place the ¨karmic¨ rule upon a newborn baby? If life would only hold you accountable for what you did in THIS life, it would be fair. However, it seems your here to either pay or enjoy for past actions. | ||
| Phoenix |
If you will allow that Luck is the interaction of energy, of course there is luck.  Some you inherit from your parents (the energetic signature of your DNA), some you create for yourself, some is spiritual; there is also luck of time, and luck of place. I agree with Martin Lipka above: if you can get all your good energies together and in balance at the right time and in the right place, you've got it made. As for being here to pay or enjoy for past actions, not everyone subscribes to that theory. You first have to believe that "you" are "you" forever and ever. In Daoism is the concept of multiple souls (10 in fact, which correspond nicely to the yin and yang of the five energies of water, wood, fire, earth, and metal). Let's say these souls (called po and hun) float around in the ether until they come together as "you." It is your job in this lifetime to work with these souls on the energetic level (through tai chi, yoga, chi kung (qigong), whatever...) until you bring them into perfect balance and harmony at which time they merge into one soul. You are then an Immortal. If you don't manage to do that in this lifetime, the ten souls return to the ether (or whatever). They mix with other souls and inhabit a new body when the time is right, but it is highly unlikely they return as a group. There is a different group of 10 for each person who is born. If that person balances, harmonizes, and merges the energies, they do not return to the ether...they are transformed and remain together...but then they do not go on to rebirth because they are Immortal. The following water analogy is mine...I hope it makes sense. I've had this belief for ages, and to tell the truth, am totally delighted to find the correspondence for it in Daoism. Think of it this way: your physical body is a glass floating on the ocean (in the ether). There are ten drops of water in the glass - these are your souls. Let's say that the transformation and merging of your souls is represented by the ten drops of water freezing together and forming an ice cube. When the glass breaks (when you physically die), the ice cube remains as one unit, your ten drops of water/souls have been perfectly harmonized and transformed, you have become an Immortal. Immortals don't reincarnate...they are energetic perfection already. If you do not transform, harmonize, and "freeze" your drops of water (your souls), when the glass breaks (when your physical body dies), your drops of water return to the ocean. What are the chances of dipping a glass into the ocean and coming up with the same ten drops of water, the souls that made "you" into "you"??? A gazillion to one? Anyway, following this Daoist model, reincarnation doesn't exist, and you don't have to worry about finding out about your past lives and making up for past mistakes, you can concentrate on making the most of the present life. Phoenix | ||
| Maurizio |
Yes, some people are lucky. Some of them have been EXTREMELY lucky in their lives. But.... does it really matter ? If others have been very lucky ..... so what ? Should we cry, despair, kill them ? One of the things Buddhism gave me is I learned to erase some negative thoughts from my mind and the idea of "lucky people" can easily lead to envy or worse. OK. They have been lucky ! Will this influence my life ? NO ! Of course no. For example I have never been particularly lucky ( in reality sometimes it seems jinx is following me .... ) anyway PERSEVERANCE more than makes up for it. I trade everyday the US markets and my equity curve is rising in a rather constant way. This is what I always desired to do and to be since I was 22. Every day I place myself in from of my computer and I look at charts, quotes, I buy, sell..... my dream came true. Luck ? No, PERSEVERANCE ! I have reached this level gradually, reading, studying, testing. So, it is unuseful to chat about other people's luck .... it would be better to use that same time to change OUR situation ! Maurizio | ||
| Maurizio |
Phoenix, my message was not an anwer to your post. It simply happened yours was the last message. So ... do not take my words as a criticism because I am not referring to you. I am speaking generally ! | ||
| Maurizio |
and, by the way, I remember what I have read somewhere else " WE ARE THE PARENTS OF THE PERSONS WE WILL BE " | ||
| Phoenix |
Hi Maurizio, Even if you were responding to me, I would never think you were criticizing. I like your quote...it is very true. Phoenix | ||
| Nnamdi Agha |
Luck is the grace of the almighty on His children. | ||
| Semper |
“why is it some people are born with great family resources while others are born in poverty? If both are terribly ambitious, who's going to go to the best colleges and make more income?” Compare: An executive of a Fortune 500 company, which went to the right schools, works long hours and spends little quality time or no time at all with his family, and he takes prescribed drugs to relax and steep. After a blue collar worker, that earns decent wages, works his 8 hours, he goes to his home and spends some quality time with his family and steeps like a baby without worrying about job related issues. Which one is the lucky one? The perception of good luck or bad luck comes from not perceiving the whole picture. The perception of good luck in others comes from not been able to perceive and appreciate one’s good fortune. One perceives the good luck in others because one takes for granted so many things in one’s life. . A person that has a degenerative disease and is bed ridden perceives a person that can walk a lucky one. Does the average person that can walk ever stops to think that to walk is to have a Good Luck? The greatest Good Luck that one can have is to have the capacity to appreciate the good things that one already has. | ||
| Maurizio |
Asoka said to put it aside for this thread, but of course, all of this "luck" is in direct relationship with karma and also "other people's riches" could be one of the tests for our lives ! A real tough one judging by how much money and related feelings ( envy, greediness ) permeate our society. By the way, I must apologize with everybody... in one of my last messages it really seems I was bragging. It was not, I am simply very proud of what I am doing. I apologize with evebody | ||
| Maurizio |
Heyyy ! I've just seen the latest addiction to the blog, Asoka and I am going to read the content right away. Just joking ....well you could have chosen a less "definitive" title "You Will DEFINITELY Die - And You Could Die Today!" rather "encouraging" !!!! | ||
| Maurizio |
why not tomorrow ? | ||
| Asoka |
Oh, it's a worthwhile reminder. I study and follow a lot about internet marketing. Just last week, one of THE main players and pioneers in that field - a person called Corey Rudl - was killed at the age of 34 when his expensive high-end Porsche crashed into the side barrier at the racing track at 100 mph. Both he and the driver were killed. It was a shock to the internet marketing community. This guy only got married last year. I imagine that when he left home that morning, it never occurred to him that this was the last day. Bizzarely enough, I even got a promotional email from him the day AFTER his death (that's the power of email autoresponders!) promoting his latest product. So yes, you will DEFINITELY die... And even if you don't think so, you could die today! Asoka | ||
| Maurizio |
Thanks Asoka, your words really cheared me up ! Of course I am simply joking. Indeed you are completely right. | ||
| Maurizio |
so .... I will never have the pleasure to visit you again ! It is better I come right now ! | ||
| Harmony |
Yes, we will die out of this mortal existence. But I truly believe that we will live forever in Spirit, where we always have. So perhaps we will get to visit again. | ||
| Maurizio |
yeahhh what a wonderful idea ! ( do you not think so ? ) I will keep visiting you for the eternity ! | ||
| Maurizio |
seriously speaking, it is a very good article. Another ( extremely ) good article is just below it in the same page of the blog. Its title is "Education Has A Price - So Has Ignorance" DO NOT MISS IT ! Here is the link to the page : http://www.aksworld.com/blog/ | ||
| Maurizio |
just to refer to this thread we could also define that article as "the best antidote to bad luck" !!!! | ||
| Steve Gillman |
Luck or no luck? Both sides are right. Of course things can just happen, and we call that luck. People also put themselves in a position to have more good things happen, and even if they call what happens "luck," it's partly a result of their choices. In fact their choice to believe in luck might be one of those things that creates the right conditions for good things to happen. (I have a free e-course on the secrets of good luck, if you're interested). Steve www. Self Improvement Now .com | ||
| Maurizio |
Saturday I went into a bookstore just to see if there was anything worth reading and I got out with a book stuck to my hand. I think it is very, very interesting : "the way to freedom : awakening the mind, lightening the heart, the joy of living and dying in peace" by the Dalai Lama It is the first time I suggest a book and I do this because I think this is fundamental, even if so far I have only paged through it. |